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Terminal Insanity Mosquito Squadron The-Culture 956	Posted - 2017.02.01 21:57:04 - [1] - Quote Loaded up the launcher, saw a CSM video. clicked the link. Facebook. I do not have, and will never have a facebook account. I shouldn't have to sign a contract with facebook, giving them rights to my whole life, just to keep up with eveonline news. Please post it elsewhere. "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Terminal Insanity Mosquito Squadron The-Culture 960	Posted - 2017.02.02 08:29:36 - [2] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: You don't need to sign anything. Click the link. Watch the video. Or don't. No need to have a Facebook account. No need to give them any rights to your whole life. You can keep up just fine by clicking the link, watching without being logged in and then closing the tab. Talk about over reaction. I could only see the video for a fraction of a second, before a giant white box popped up demanding i sign in or sign up. Surely these should be posted on youtube or vimeo or something as well? "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Terminal Insanity Mosquito Squadron The-Culture 989	Posted - 2017.02.02 23:55:38 - [3] - Quote Mr Mieyli wrote: It's pretty simple economics for CCP to have their videos on Facebook, since the only people who dont have a Facebook are tinfoil hatters, who don't realise companies have their details already. However if I was the marketing team, I would not be content having these videos, which are advertisements, in only one place. I would want to push the video to as many potential customers as possible, using as many big platforms as is practicable. Its not "tinfoil hat" if its literally exactly what they're doing. Openly. Admitted to. Refusing to use it is a form of boycott. Its how you tell a company you do not like their practices. You 'vote with your wallet'. If you dont mind companies harvesting every detail of your private life and circulating it like a giant stalker network, then go ahead and use it. But personally i dont think that should be a thing thats happening, so i refuse to use it. Elenahina wrote: Domanique Altares wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: At some point we'll probably add these videos to our YouTube channel, but there's no guarantee on when. That's incredibly lazy, to be honest. As opposed to not watching the video where it already exists? Actively boycotting a company and seeking that content elsewhere is not "lazy". It in fact takes more work to find the content, rather than just using the provided link. Its hard work! "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Terminal Insanity Mosquito Squadron The-Culture 989	Posted - 2017.02.03 00:02:36 - [4] - Quote Steve Ronuken wrote: The videos were recorded quickly, without extensive setup. Doing it on facebook allowed CCP to do it 'live', in the room where we had the meetings. Convenient for everyone involved. Why couldn't we use Twitch like the o7 show? It allows for easy, quick, painless live streaming, as well as saving the video for later. "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Terminal Insanity Mosquito Squadron The-Culture 992	Posted - 2017.02.03 02:53:42 - [5] - Quote Johan Civire wrote: Terminal Insanity wrote: Loaded up the launcher, saw a CSM video. clicked the link. Facebook. I do not have, and will never have a facebook account. I shouldn't have to sign a contract with facebook, giving them rights to my whole life, just to keep up with eveonline news. Please post it elsewhere. grow up kid this is 2017 and not 1990. You are using the internet there is no privacy or you accept it or you will lose the war. Just make damn fake account on with vpn on. Nuff said. Social media is the new way of life adept or die. Do i agree with you yeah but i know my losses. its too easy for me to reject it. im not about to exchange my rights for a csm video. i dont see what benefit facebook brings that is worth signing their contract, so if that means i cant watch a csm video, im perfectly willing to do that. if you're willing to give up yuor rights for a csm video, that is also your right im just asking if it could also be posted elsewhere because there are many of us who resist against facebook. i dont care if its cool or hip to not care about our rights anymore, maybe im just old. But thats my choice "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Terminal Insanity Mosquito Squadron The-Culture 992	Posted - 2017.02.03 03:09:39 - [6] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Terminal Insanity wrote: its too easy for me to reject it. im not about to exchange my rights for a csm video. Hahaha. What rights are you exchanging if you were to watch that video? My god, members of this community are stupid at times. You must not have read the facebook contracts you agreed to when signing up. And avoided all the news articles discussing its overreach. I dont really blame you tbh, everyone just clicks Accept to anything. People install flashlight apps on their phone with every permission possible, so someone accepting a facebook contract blindly isnt surprising. Have you ever wondered how the largest social media site on the planet operates for free? all that bandwidth, free? I'll give you a hint: You are the product. I dont understand why people get so offensive about this. Im not forcing you to do anything. "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Terminal Insanity Mosquito Squadron The-Culture 992	Posted - 2017.02.03 03:27:42 - [7] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Terminal Insanity wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Terminal Insanity wrote: its too easy for me to reject it. im not about to exchange my rights for a csm video. Hahaha. What rights are you exchanging if you were to watch that video? My god, members of this community are stupid at times. You must not have read the facebook contracts you agreed to when signing up. FFS. You don't need an account to watch the video. So again, given you don't even need an account with FaceBook at all, what rights do you need to exchange? ** you're stupid. It goes beyond facebook's signup contract. They also collect data on everyone even if they dont use facebook, even if you never sign up. Refusing to use facebook includes never visiting the site. Never being a part of it. Never registering as a "view" on any of their videos. Never registering as a "hit" on any of their pages. Never being a recipient of an advertisement on their site. They only exist because people use it. If people stopped using it, they cant stay in business. You are supporting a business that is stripping the privacy of every person on the internet. Thats your choice, but its also my choice to avoid it like the plague. If im a horrible ** person for not submitting to a horrible company, that i gladly take that title. Im a horrible *** person. Im a complete idiot for not using facebook. Now that we've cleared that up, can we get over attacking me personally and just discuss the pros/cons of simply posting the video elsewhere? As someone said earlier, its about marketing. Well, posting it on other sites would only expand that marketing reach, would it not? "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature.**" - CCP
Terminal Insanity Mosquito Squadron The-Culture 992	Posted - 2017.02.03 03:46:07 - [8] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Holy **. It's 1984 arrived.. It really has. We're living in an age where people are literally insulting others for not wanting to use a monitoring device. Scroll up and look at all the insults, simply because i dont want to use facebook. Amazing isnt it? War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength And not using facebook is idiocy, apparently. "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature.**" - CCP
Terminal Insanity Mosquito Squadron The-Culture 992	Posted - 2017.02.03 04:00:31 - [9] - Quote The Slayer wrote: But see this is the thing. You aren't asking to not use a monitoring device. You are asking CCP to use the monitoring device that YOU want them to use. You think Google doesn't receive analytics from you browsing youtube? I dont think ccp cares tbh. as for youtube, i've got a VM set up for it, and am confident in how i've protected myself from them while using it. Other than that, you've gotta pick your battles. I've decided to never touch facebook, and simply asking for it to be posted somewhere else. Im pretty sure im not the only person who wont use it. "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Terminal Insanity Mosquito Squadron The-Culture 992	Posted - 2017.02.03 05:19:14 - [10] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: ... The first post was fine. It didnt warrant any of the insults. The other posts were just replies to those insults "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP

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